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  • #16
    Originally posted by knightrous View Post
    As James May would put it, "OH COCK!"
    The ground clearance was barely 3" once the suspension sagged down with the weight of the motor and it could only get lower when hitting bumps. Running over small children and dogs would now put the sump into fubar territory... In my midst of making new mounts, I had totally forgotten that these things are eccentric mounts, so when I rotated the mount for the gearbox 90 degrees and the motor mount 180 degrees, shit was now low, wife bashing low...
    Classic. Wish I had your skills though. Is your sump 10cm off the ground at the new height? Don't want to give the police a reason to hassle you.

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    • #17
      It's around 110mm to 120mm. I have a little bit of flexibility as it currently just has some lowered king springs in the rear that are suited for a 4AGE. I'll be replacing them with a set of HSD 7KG/MM springs on modified struts, like these ones I made for my other AW11 (TrackDub)

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      • #18
        Time for another little story.
        This time it's about how I had three AW11's in my driveway and why my AW11 is now engineless

        It all started about a month ago, when I found a cheap AW11 with a 20V Silvertop motor in it, for sale in Brissy for $2k. I sent the advert to a mate on Facebook who was looking for a cheap, first car. Another friend of mine saw the post I put on facebook and decided he was keen to check it out. Long story short, my mate was short on cash, I lent him the extra in agreement that I got the 20V Silvertop out of it and he could have the P Plate legal 16V 4AGE from my MR2.

        So we start with a white AW11

        With a 4AGE 20V Silvertop


        Then we hauled in my red AW11

        With a 4AGE 16V


        Mandatory Owner in Engine bay photo


        Then we moved onto servicing the 16V ready for another 100000km of 4AGE reliability and performance. Made 89.9RWHP when I last had it dyno'd, which isn't bad for 20+ years old!

        Stripping the motor down.







        Check out the cool little tool I made to remove the valve spring retainers
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2-g-PHvUMs

        New timing belt, valve stem seals, water pump and cam seals all done


        Sump off to swap over to the 20V. My AW11 has a factory oil cooler that drains back into the sump while my mates doesn't


        But it turns out the sumps are different...


        On to Plan B (Drilling a hole in the sump for the 20V and putting a plug in the 16V sump)


        Welding up a broken gearbox mount


        20V and 16V motors have their coolant inlet/outlets in opposite ends of the heads. So had to make up a new radiator hose...

        to fit where the factory oil cooler live.


        Then we started to put the engine back in, so I stopped taking photos and just put the GoPro on timelapse instead
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-f-M7lQ2PQ

        Then the ever glorious, first start up video!
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_YUK0xGNt8


        Now I just have to find the time to put the 20V Silvertop into my AW11 with the spare close ratio C56 gearbox I have...
        Last edited by knightrous; 30-03-2011, 09:56 PM.

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        • #19
          only 89.9RWHP from it... must be a big port blue top 4A-GE, my stock red top made 101.5RWHP on the dyno.

          good deal for the 20V, i so want one for my AE86, but i just need the money.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Faceplant View Post
            only 89.9RWHP from it... must be a big port blue top 4A-GE, my stock red top made 101.5RWHP on the dyno.
            Yep, just your average bog stock 2nd gen bigport with 270000+km on it.


            Anyway, the 20V conversion is ever so close to completion.

            I finished off my C56 gearbox early sunday, after having swapped the C52 AW11 center gearbox casing onto the AE101 C56 gearbox.


            Then after a few hours of putting the motor on the box and getting it under the car and lifted into place, it looked like this.


            Since the exhaust was off the car, I decided to change the rear sway bar over from the stock AW11 swaybar to an SW20 rear sway bar. As you can see in the below photo, the SW20 sway bar is a much bigger bar.



            Due to differences between the two cars, the mounts and clamps didn't match up, so I modified them with a hacksaw and hammer.



            And this was the finished product

            Will see how it goes once I finish the remaining work for the 20V conversion []

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            • #21
              Well finally had a bit of success with my DIYPNP MegaSquirt conversion.
              Had a few headaches with getting a reliable signal from the 4AGE Dizzy/CAS, but I have now conquered that and am much learned from the experience.

              Here is todays little adventure.

              Got all agricultural today and made me a $15 vacuum canister to try to get a better MAP reading from the 20V ITB's.


              Then all fitted to the 20V, ready for some tinkering.


              Made a discovery with the 20V dizzy today, the G wheel is shaped like a snail and I had the cam pickup setting in the MegaSquirt set to "Rising Edge", which is completely fail due to the sensor picking the snail up before the tooth. So swapped it over to Falling Edge, and presto!

              www.youtube.com/watch?v=N16HQMd9TfU

              MegaSquirt is up and running, I have solved the problems that were caused by my lack of understanding, understood them and change the settings to make it work
              Now to wire my LC1 back into the exhaust and tune this mofo!
              Last edited by knightrous; 23-10-2011, 01:25 AM.

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              • #22
                Kinda bought two more AW11's....

                89' AW11 4AGZE Supercharged, auto with factory Recaro seats and targa top. It has been named SlushDub to fit in with my AW11 naming schema (Along with TrackDub and SkidDub) and because it's got a slushbox (automatic transmission).


                87' AW11 4AGE, manual and a bit of rust... Will be a parts car.


                Gave SlushDub a splash with some water and it looks a bit better. Still needs a new lick of paint and a few trims/parts tidied up.


                Next thing is on my mod list is a block of land and a big shed to put all these cars in!

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                • #23
                  I've got a mate in Brisbane with a "Black Limited" AW11 with the supercharged engine in it. He's wanting to sell it as he now has a Mazda 6 MPS. Not sure what he'd want for it. No rego, been sitting a while in his garage.

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                  • #24
                    Really cool work. Thought the 1mz would be to much hassel to put into a aw11. But silver top is great, you are a Mac Gyver in the making. How hard was it to build the mega squirt. I got basic to a bit better understanding of eletronics and soldering adn circuit boards just want to know out of 10 for hardness. Looks great though your car shold be awesome, all 15 of them lol

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                    • #25
                      Have you got some trumpets for your 20v, ive got some stock ones you could buy to make an airbox around.

                      Its looking like things are coming along nicely, but where the hell are you finding all these AW11's

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by mauswerkz View Post
                        I've got a mate in Brisbane with a "Black Limited" AW11 with the supercharged engine in it. He's wanting to sell it as he now has a Mazda 6 MPS. Not sure what he'd want for it. No rego, been sitting a while in his garage.
                        As much as I'd love to add a Black Limited to my collection, I currently have 2x AW11, 1x Paseo and 1x Imprezza (Gf's) all parked in driveway of my single garage unit is pretty chaotic... And that is without the arrival of the 2x new AW11's! However, PM me his details, I might be able to line a buyer up for him

                        Originally posted by woot woor View Post
                        Really cool work. Thought the 1mz would be to much hassel to put into a aw11. But silver top is great, you are a Mac Gyver in the making. How hard was it to build the mega squirt. I got basic to a bit better understanding of eletronics and soldering adn circuit boards just want to know out of 10 for hardness. Looks great though your car shold be awesome, all 15 of them lol
                        Just to clarify, I have the 1MZ going into my 88' AW11 and the 20V has just gone into my 89' AW11. The 1MZ isn't too hard, it's only probably a weekend or two away of getting the last bits of the physical crap done (welding and adjusting mounts, exhaust) etc etc, but I've been massively sidetracked with this 20V fiasco that I just haven't had time to do anything on it. Once the 20V is going, I'll be throwing some late nights into the car again

                        The megasquirt isn't hard to build, if you can solder together a Jaycar LED kit, you could 99% put together a MegaSquirt. The hardest part is wiring the megasquirt into your car, and understanding how everything works. When I first tried putting my MS2 into my AW11 with the old 16V 4AGE, it took me about 4 weeks before I got it started. It was a simple case of I didn't quite understand how things worked, but with a few tips from veterans on the MSExtra forums, I put in an extra resistor, jumped a couple of wires to a different place and it fired up first go. I then had it street tuned within about 3hrs, and did 7500km on it before the car ran into other issues and I pulled the MS2 out to eliminate it as a potential cause (Turned out to be the immobiliser...).

                        If your looking for a plug and play solution, don't buy a megasquirt. Just go destroy your wallet with a Haltec and then take another raping with a tuner, you'll find it easier in the long run. However, if your happy to learn more about your car, put up with a bit of frustration, like to drown in documentation and enjoy that oh so sweet feeling you get when you hear your motor fire into life with an ECU you built by hand, then wired into your car, and then tuned....... BUY A MEGASQUIRT!

                        Also, if you go the MS route, I'd definitely recommend looking at the DIYPNP kits available. They take a large portion of the MS2 headaches away, and have a fair few cool features ready to roll. Support from DIYAuto is nice too, they are helpful blokes!

                        Originally posted by Faceplant View Post
                        Have you got some trumpets for your 20v, ive got some stock ones you could buy to make an airbox around.
                        Its looking like things are coming along nicely, but where the hell are you finding all these AW11's
                        I've got a set of 42mm ITB's sitting here at the moment, I just need to spin up some flanges on my lathe to suit them


                        I don't know where I keep finding AW11's, but it's going to have to stop soon... I need to know find a block of land, build a big shed to store them all in (with stuff like workshop and hoist!) and then I can look at buying some more...

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                        • #27
                          Theres a guy close to me selling his 88' AW11 for 1500 bones, should i be interested???

                          Great thread btw, loving every post!
                          Last edited by F@BOY; 14-11-2011, 05:58 AM.

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                            • #29
                              Mind, blown! You've done quite alot of work on her, How did you go about fabricating those mounts for the engine?
                              Coz in the near future i'd like to try and squeeze something like a 2JZ or a 1G-GTE into my RA60 Celica.

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                              • #30


                                Hoorah, finally got to take a decent drive in it.

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