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    Firstly, a little about me.
    I'm a 41yo with a wife and 3 kids.
    Living in Northern Western Australia
    Tradie, car nut and long time MCM fan.

    I have owned various off road 4x4 cars for the past 15 years plus. Before that I owned things like a supercharged V8 VN calais and such.
    The time has come to sell my 4x4 (late model Holden Colorado) and find a new fun car.
    I havve about 6 months to research before the Colorado is all paid off and ready to be sold.

    I have been browsing car sales to see what you can buy these days for my budget etc and have started a list.
    Help me narrow it down or add in anything I may have overlooked.

    My requirements are:
    Between $10k and $15k
    Under 150,000kms
    5 seats
    In good running condition (no project builds. Too hard where I live)
    Fast(ish)
    Decent aftermarket options
    Locally available spares
    Fairly reliable.
    Anything but a Ford (it's a family thing lol)

    My list so far....
    Audi s4 auto V8 or manual 2.7l v6 twin turbo
    SRT 300c
    WRX
    VW Golf GTI (Mark 4, possibly a Mark 5)
    Liberty GT
    VE calais V8
    VE SS V

    Most of these sit in the 0-100kmh between 5 and 7 second bracket which is fine, but ill almost certainly want to modify whatever I buy to get a bit more power, handling etc.
    Where I live things like resprays, engine rebuilds etc are very expensive so ill be sticking to mostly bolt on type mods.
    It won't get many kms put on it but would be used once or twice a year for long highway trips with the family.

    Now I am not super current on what is good.
    Critique my list or add something I haven't thought of.
    Help an old rev head out.

  • #2
    that's a good list mate

    I'd avoid the S4 V8, it's literally a shit engine. it's also impossible to work on, there's literally no space. Front end has to come off the car to work on anything down the front (like a common failure point is the alternator for example)

    The 2.7T in the older S4's are solid engines though, and it's got double the stutututu?

    WRX? tick tick tick hehehe. They're reliable as long as you keep the oil temp under 110degrees c. if it goes above this, bye bye engine.

    Mk5 GTi is a brilliant car, be wary of blocked oil pickup pipes. if you get a mk5 I'd remove the oil pickup and inspect it to make sure it's clean before modifying it.

    You'll get depressed with a mk4 GTi.

    300c is terrible build quality, I think you should avoid that.

    Can't really go wrong with a commie, you know what you're getting.

    Well, that's my opinion anyway.
    I stripped my car out so much it now has 49/49 weight distribution.

    Project Diesel Tune:

    https://forums.mightycarmods.com/for...ct-diesel-tune

    My new Daily HA36S Alto Works

    Martin's Kei to success

    https://forums.mightycarmods.com/for...uki-alto-works

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    • #3
      Thanks MHR1294.
      This is the insider info I was looking for.
      Ill remove the V8 S4 and 300c from the list and aim for the mark 5 golf if it comes down to that.

      The WRXs in my price range are around 2004 to 2008 2.5T models.
      Are these ok or would I be best going older models?

      Lastly, the Golf is a touch slow in stock form (7 sec 0-100)
      How easy/affordable is it to knock a second or two off that time? Any weak points when diving into that power level?
      I.e. can the stock turbo push much higher or is it pretty close to the limit from factory? Intercooler/exhaust etc is a no brainer
      Last edited by Raisins78; 21-08-2019, 10:41 AM.

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      • #4
        Ok... so I am leaning towards the S4, WRX or Golf V as I have never really modified a turbo car (other than diesel)
        The V8 Holdens are good, but Ive done a few and want something different. They can just be my fall back choice
        0-100 Specs:
        2001 Audi S4 tt Manual - 5.7 sec
        2008 WRX sedan - 5.3 sec
        2007 MkV golf gti - 7.2 sec

        The Audi is Euro (plus) as is the Golf. I like Euro styling and build quality.

        The WRX is newer and quicker (plus) for the same $$$, plus I assume would have far greater aftermarket options available in Australia.(another plus)

        The Golf could be found for 2-3k less than the other two (with higher kms or an earlier version i.e. 2005) which leaves that amount to spend on go fast mods, but is that enough to match the other two?

        Both WRX and Audi are AWD too (plus) where is the Golf is only FWD....

        So Audi is Euro, AWD and quick out of the box
        WRX is quick, has after market and AWD
        Golf is Euro but a little slow.....

        So Im thinking it is now between the S4 and the WRX.
        WRX is far newer for the $$$$, but I assume the Audi would be more comfortable/quiet/luxurious inside, especially on highway drives?

        Goddamn it!

        At least the list is down to two now lol

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        • #5
          You're kinda solving your own puzzle here, hahahaha!

          Golf is fun wheel drive so it is harder to know off 0-60 times, how often do you launch like that though? It'll map to about 190Kw with breathing mods.

          I'd say the Audi is definitely the most comfy to drive and by far the best interior.
          I stripped my car out so much it now has 49/49 weight distribution.

          Project Diesel Tune:

          https://forums.mightycarmods.com/for...ct-diesel-tune

          My new Daily HA36S Alto Works

          Martin's Kei to success

          https://forums.mightycarmods.com/for...uki-alto-works

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          • #6
            After watching a few hours of youtube last night, the Audi definitely has a cult following. That 2.7t seems to be pretty robust.
            I reckon I have made up by mind.
            I'll be aiming for a B5 S4 with low kms and good service history. If I can't find one in WA when I go shopping I may settle on the WRX as there are tonnes of them available.
            Last edited by Raisins78; 22-08-2019, 12:23 PM.

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            • #7
              Update
              The Audi is still at the top of my list but there isn't many on the market here in Aus. Finding a good one with lowish kms and a good service history may take some time.
              As a back up, I'm still looking at Subi's
              What would be the best WRX to buy for around $10k?
              There are heaps of bug eyes etc and a handfull of newer ones.
              I am seeing anything from 2002 to 2010 models in my price and km range.
              Pros and cons of each series?
              Do I get a 2009+ and just stick an exhaust on it?
              Or get something older for a bit less and leave myself some $$$ for exhaust, fuel pump, BOV, CAI and tune for example?
              Any lemon models to be aware of with big weak spots?

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              • #8
                I think out of the Subaru's the only engine you want to avoid is the 2.5.

                I don't know much else about them, I had a bug eye and it was brilliant
                I stripped my car out so much it now has 49/49 weight distribution.

                Project Diesel Tune:

                https://forums.mightycarmods.com/for...ct-diesel-tune

                My new Daily HA36S Alto Works

                Martin's Kei to success

                https://forums.mightycarmods.com/for...uki-alto-works

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                • #9
                  I actually like the bug eye look. Seems I may be in the minority there lol.
                  Have found quite a few of them with low kms, a few mods like exhaust and coilovers etc and for under $10k.
                  Definitely leaves me some spending money to make it my own.
                  This decision has gotten harder again lol.
                  What about the Caldina? I knkw they are auto but are they good. Can you make them fairly quick?

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                  • #10
                    What about Lexus Is300 2nd generation?

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                    • #11
                      So I end up buying a 2006 MPS 6 after a bunch of test drives and research.
                      Really happy with it. Love the look, the performance, the comfort, everything really

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                        • #13
                          Good news man, they're an excellent car. Nippy too!

                          I was gonna mention, that they rust for fun but then I remembered where you live
                          I stripped my car out so much it now has 49/49 weight distribution.

                          Project Diesel Tune:

                          https://forums.mightycarmods.com/for...ct-diesel-tune

                          My new Daily HA36S Alto Works

                          Martin's Kei to success

                          https://forums.mightycarmods.com/for...uki-alto-works

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                          • #14
                            It is definitely "nippy"
                            From the ad....
                            "Parts recently installed (3000kms ago):
                            NPC Organic Heavy Duty Clutch
                            OEM clutch master cylinder
                            Rebuilt transfer case with 90,000km with sp63 bearing caps
                            New steering tie rod end
                            New sway bar link
                            New upper control arm
                            New battery
                            New power steering pump
                            New Pod filter
                            Gearbox and transfer case oil
                            Airbag recalled and replaced.

                            Modifications Include:
                            K&N hi flow 3" pod filter
                            Cold Air Intake: CP-E painted matte black and custom 'MPS' logo in-printed, VTCS delete.
                            Turbo Inlet Pipe: HTP 3" powder-coated black
                            ATP GTX28(67?)R internal wastegated turbo, 3" inlet
                            Downpipe: CP-E downpipe 3" stainless steel catted
                            Fuel Pump: CP-E High Pressure Fuel Pump
                            Timing Chain: New VVT kit installed (New Actuator, Tensioner, Chain, Gaskets, Seals, Cover Seal, Chain Guides, Crank Lock Bolt)
                            Turbosmart Dual Port BOV - Black. 50/50 VTA or blanked
                            Top Mount Intercooler: ETS - 2.5" anodised black
                            NPC Heavy Duty Organic Clutch with Single mass Flywheel
                            Upgraded 3 bar MAP sensor
                            Grimmspeed Electronic Boost Control Solenoid
                            ITV22 Denso Iridium 1 step colder plugs
                            Cypher Industries custom 3" mild steel exhaust c/w 2off resonators, mandrel bend pipework splitting into dual stainless steel super-cat mufflers
                            King springs: low, standard shock absorbers
                            Tyres: Continental 225/45/R18 (Rear)
                            Tyres: Hankook Ventus S1 Noble 2 H452 225/45/R18 (Front)
                            Brakes (front & rear rotors): DBA 4000 series slotted front rotors
                            Brakes (front & rear pads): Hawks HPS pads
                            Hypertech: Underside Bracing (front)
                            Corksport: Strut bracing (front)

                            Other modifications:
                            Defi boost gauge
                            - Defi BF 60mm Boost Meter
                            - Red Defi EGT gauge
                            - Defi BF 60mm Exhaust Gas Temp Meter
                            - Red Defi control unit
                            - Defi Link Control II Cp-e
                            - Rear Engine Mount SSP
                            - 2XS Racing Titanium Short shift plate Sure Motorsports "Countershift" modified (lighter) shift weight
                            Sure Motorsports: Aluminium Weighted shift knob
                            Sure Motorsports: "Anchors" for precision shifting
                            Alpine MRP-M500 V-Power Digital Mono Amplifier
                            Alpine Type S SWR-1222D 12" Subwoofer

                            Equipped with launch control (currently set at 4,000RPM) and flat floot shift (5,500RPM), 22 psi at peak boost."

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